Introduction Of Podcast
Swapneel Hazare started his career as a cricketer and represented Mumbai in Ranji trophy. He then moved into the world of coaching and training athletes and celebrities. In this episode, Mohit & Swapneel discuss what a regular day of a trainer at an elite level looks like, what goes into training a celebrity and how CGM can change the game for everyone. Hop right in!
Timestamps
- (00:00 – 01:17) – Introduction
- (01:43 – 08:55) – Swapneel’s Cricketing Career
- (08:56 – 15:44) – Current Day Fitness in Sports & Movies
- (15:45 – 19:27) – Importance of Hard Work & Work Ethic
- (23:08 – 28:55) – Swapneel’s Journey with the Ultrahuman M1 CGM
- (29:14 – 30:23) – Top 3 Tips For Transformation
Key Takeaways – Transcripts
Intro (Mohit): Watching celebs, movie stars, and sports stars from afar, We are in awe of not only their artistic talents, but also how well they take care of their own bodies. But what goes behind in getting that perfect beach bod for a movie? Or to reach peak athletic performance while on the pitch? Who are the people behind it? We speak to one such superhero who tells it all. Today we are joined by Swapneel Hazare. He’s a former Ranji Trophy cricketer, having played for Mumbai. He has entered the world of celebrity coaching and is one of the most prominent S&C coaches of India. Swapneel has worked with T 20 Mumbai team and is a master trainer with certificates like Black Roll, ESA and ACSM to name a few. In this episode, we talk to him about his life’s journey right from the days of competing for Ranji Trophy, where he shared his dressing room with the likes of Sachin Tendulkar, to his journey into the world of celebrity coaching, where he has trained actors like Hrithik Roshan. We also talk about his experience with the Ultrahuman Cyborg and the insights he gained and what has helped him train more efficiently. Swapneel also gives away essential transformation tips for you to learn and implement. So let’s get to it.
(Mohit): Hi, Swapneel. Good to see you here. Really appreciate your time. Such a pleasure.
(Swapneel): Thanks, Mohit. Thanks. It’s my pleasure as well to be on this platform with you. It’s been a wonderful journey so far using the UltraHuman. So I’m looking forward to this.
Question (Mohit): Oh, absolutely. I’ve been hearing a lot about the work and obviously a big fan, but I would like to go a little back in your journey and talk a little about your background and how did you essentially get here, right? So what I know a little bit about is that you have played Ranji, you have played for Bombay, and this is long, long back, I’m assuming. And we’ll have to understand the journey before and how did it lead you here? Like, super interesting to know that.
Answer (Swapneel): So, journey started way back in 1997 when I started playing cricket in my back door. Like every other child, I started playing cricket in my building and from there it went to school cricket and college cricket and went ahead. So I first started playing at Elf Academy at the Oval ground. From there I went on to play for Mumbai under 19 and to play for India under 19. Luckily, I got everything in one go and from there went to play first class cricket. That’s Ranji trophy. Cricket for Mumbai. I was lucky to share the dressing rooms with Sachin, Vinod, Amor Majumdar, Nilesh Kulkarni. The atmosphere in the dressing room was wonderful. It was such a learning experience in the early years, when I was about 20-21 years, that it helped my cricket quite a bit.
(Mohit): I’m getting goosebumps as you’re speaking, like it must have been surreal.
(Swapneel): I’ll tell you why Mohit because as a young cricket, at that point in 1998-99, if you played for Mumbai, it was a very big deal because at that point it was easier to play for India, but difficult to play for Mumbai. That’s what the saying used to go. So to get into the Mumbai dressing room and to get selected was like a dream come true. And it happened within a space of two years. So it was a big shock to me as well, because it just happened by the snap of a finger. In 1999 I played my Under-19, in 2000 made my Ranji Trophy debut. So it went very fast. I was lucky in that sense. I got an early break, people saw something in me and they gave me a chance to perform and that’s how it went.
Question (Mohit): Wow. I don’t have any words to describe it. Like, if you’re describing the dressing room scenario with legends in the room, how did those days go? Like, basically mentally, it must have been such a mind blowing experience and would love to hear a little bit more about it. I am personally very curious as well.
Answer (Swapneel): So day used to starte early in the morning at 630, leave from your go to one, get a stadium for practice. Practice usually used to have like 1 hour of fielding practice, have a half an hour of a break to have a little bit of breakfast. And the idea was to get into nets around 09:00 or 9:30 because usually the match starts at 930. The Ranji Trophy match starts at 9:30. The idea is to get it into the nets at 9:30. And then nets used to go on about for two and a half hours and then break and have a quick snack and get back home. Getting back home, have a quick lunch, have a nap for about an hour or two and then go to the gym to train or get into the pool and do a few laps to recover from the session. And that’s how life was for the next 15 years for me. So right from 2000 to 2014 or 15 till the time I was playing, I never went to any relatives house or anybody’s house. The only thing I knew was to play cricket. So besides cricket, there was nothing in my life as such cricket training and that’s what I knew all about at that period of time.
(Mohit): Sort of like found your passion, right, in many ways.
(Swapneel): No, a lot of people say that I was lucky. Yes, I was lucky because you have a passion and you have a job. My job was my passion. So in that sense, I was very lucky to have something which was my passion and that’s where it helped me to deliver the best what I could.
Question (Mohit): No, absolutely. And I think it’s also said that you have to really create your own luck, right? Yeah, true. That goes hand in hand. That’s pretty cool. And from there to actually like here right now, right? Essentially making a different move and equally, and I would love to know those challenges as well, like moving to a new industry where you were telling me at the beginning, like, how challenging it is from a schedule perspective, but how did that journey happen.
Answer (Swapneel): So I had my first injury way back in 2004. In my initial years, I had a knee surgery for my left miniscus and that’s when I was doing my rehab. And one of my mentors at that time, Doctor Kinjal Suratwala, he was conducting a fitness program, he was conducting a certification for fitness trainers. And he said, since you have such a keen interest in fitness and you’re injured, you don’t have anything to do for the next couple of months, why don’t you do this course? So I did that course way back in 2004 and that’s where the journey began. That was my actual start of learning things in terms of training.
Question (Mohit): How young were you back then?
Answer (Swapneel): I was 22, 23 at that point, but in 2004 I was 24. And that’s when you’re at the peak of your life trying to hit as a fastballer, you’re trying to hit the peak. And that’s when I started to learn a few things. I went to MRF Pace Foundation where I met Ramji Srinawasan, who used to drill us like anything. I’m still in touch with him. He used to be the trainer of strength and conditioning coach for the Indian team at that point. And man, he used to drill every single person and he used to make fast goals in terms of fitness, he really used to push. And the best part was a lot of people from Australia came along with Dennis Lily. That point to Mrs Foundation, like Richard Don, who was a trainer for the Australian cricket team, the physios and trainers. And once you start interacting with such people, your knowledge starts getting updated, you learn new methods. And eventually I went on to National Cricket Academy, which was just starting in 2000 in the very first batch. So there was a lot of exchange programs happening at that point. So during those exchange programs, you come across different trainers, different physios, and you learn a lot of things from that. And by nature I’m a very curious person. I like to learn a new thing. If there is something I want to know, then I’ll get to the bottom of it by finding different ways to get around it. And because of my interest in training, because for me, my bowling depended on my fitness at what speed I ran. Everything was for rhythm for me. So if I ran well, I bowled well and I bowled fast. If my legs were not fit enough or they were not fresh enough, I used struggle. And the result which produced in terms of bowling, was not very good. So I knew that everything was around my fitness level. So I used to push myself to the extremes to keep my level up, to be among the fittest and trying to do that. What happened is at that point there wasn’t much education around like the way it is now. The support system wasn’t that great. It was there, it was good. There’s no complaints about it at that point. But looking from now what I see now, the support system in place for athletes is much more higher and better. In trying to push myself, I got injured quite a few times. I had two knee surgeries, I had two broken ankles, I had two shoulder injuries. And to get back every time from an injury was a challenge. And every time you get injured, you learn something new about your own body and you try and explore different ways of getting better and around it. And that’s where my fitness journey actually started from my own experiences of breaking down and getting back on my feet again.
(Mohit): I think you would have literally been through the transformation of the Indian sporting industry from the Indian sporting culture, which moved pro fitness from basically not so pro fitness.
(Swapneel): I know exactly what you’re saying. There was a point where Indian players were not that keen on fitness. It was more skill based and more talent based. You could never see an Indian slide on the field before. You never see an Indian dive on the field, or you sprint as quick as anybody. And eventually the generation changed. Yuvraj Singh, Kaif, Ajay Ratra, Zaheer Khan, Harbhajan Singh, the new lot which came in, they brought in a different kind of energy on the field all times to Saurav at that point, who made a major change and who backed them to the call. And I think that’s where the whole system changed. That’s where the whole system changed. And a lot of emphasis was given on fitness at that point. And lot more younger players started diving around, jumping around, getting more fitter. They started training a lot. And after that generation came a new generation of Virat Kohli and all, where you see them lifting, doing more power lifting stuff. Power lifting is completely a different spot altogether. But a lot of players have started lifting weights and doing cleans and snatches, looking at different players. I think the whole concept of fitness in cricket has changed, not only in cricket, but now this sports also is completely changed. You see a lot more Indians getting more fitter. You look at the bodies and you see like, oh, he’s fit here. It never happened before with Indian athletes. You see them talented, but you never saw them or looked at them as like, oh wow, what a physique, what a body. But now it’s changed. I think people are more aware of what is required to succeed at the topmost level and that’s where the changes come around.
(Mohit): Yeah, I think there was this transformatory phase and as you said in sports, rightly, summarized at three different phases, right? The pre phase and then the middle phase where Saurav made the change. And essentially now the new era where I think we are also known as the fielding side.
(Swapneel): Yeah, it was never known like India. And fielding side was something that was never happening. But you see now it’s among the one of the best fielding sides in the world, like Jadeja, Shreyas Iyer You name the players and they are like superly fit.
(Mohit): And something similar, by the way, happened in Bollywood as well. I would say that I remember, okay, maybe I need to brush my memory, but when Kaho Na Pyar Hai came out with Hrithik Roshan, the first physique that came out actually sort of like defined. Yeah, there were Bollywood actors before that.
(Swapneel): So what you’re saying is absolutely right. Just before Kaho Na Pyar Hai, there were bodies, but they were like, huge bodies. There was not a definition of the body. There was no sharpness in the body. The size was there and it was all there. I think it started with Salman Khan in the movie Suryavanshi, where his body was really in good shape. But when Kaho Na Pyar Hai, it came like a massive transformation. It went sensational overnight. I remember as a kid, I was like, oh, wow, not the girls. Even the boys. And the men were like, oh, wow, jaw dropping body. Hrithik at that point had huge arms. Super well defined body. He has amazing looks. He was a brilliant dancer and everything, a brilliant actor. Everything was put together in one mould. And it never happened in Bollywood before. There were skill sets within different people, but everything put together for the first time was Hrithik Roshan. And so it was like, amazing to see that. And then later on to start working with him was something else.
(Mohit): Yeah, especially the physicality. I would say that it was transformatory in many ways that you see the entrance post-Hrithik and pre-Hrithik. No offense, of course, but I think he sort of, like, changed the industry in many ways.
(Swapneel): I think he’s become a pioneer in transformation of the industry in terms of body. A lot of people look at him in a kind of idolize him as a person, not only because of his body, but because of the acting as well, and the kind of person he is. Like the whole new generations after Hrithik whoever came, I think everybody started working on their bodies. They knew that to survive and to have a success in Bollywood, they cannot survive only on acting skills or just a body. They need to be a complete package. And looks and body definition was something else. There’s no second ways about it. There’s no way. You have to have a good body. You have to have a good chiseled body. You have to have six packs. That’s how it became like, second nature for everybody who came into the industry. After that.
Question (Mohit): Absolutely. It’s sort of like the minimum criteria to be there and very fascinating. But how is it like to be sort of like on the back end side, right? How challenging it is to manage this and to keep, like, one time transformation is cool, but then to show up with that in every movie and to be better every time, how does that sound?
Answer (Swapneel): It’s a task. It’s not easy. People think that he’s blessed with a good body. He is blessed with a good body. He has good genetics. But saying that he puts a lot of effort into his training, a lot of effort. A lot of people will be surprised the amount of hours he’s looking after his body. He has a delicate back. He has multiple slip discs in his back, which is very delicate. And he struggles with it all the time because of it. But to make sure that he is in peak condition, the amount of effort he’s put in is crazy. I treat him like an athlete for the simple reason. Because athletes, they know they have a very limited time frame to play and they have to perform. And there’s no other way of getting away with it. Same with Hrithik. He looks after his body and he just puts in the hours and hours. And the effort into is crazy for a lot of people. Sometimes I feel like they have a trainer and that’s about it. They get away with it. But with Hrithik, there’s a whole back end team which puts in the effort. There’s a physio, there’s a masseur, there’s a trainer, there is a person who looks after his nutrition, there’s a chef whose role is very important because what he is is what he is. So everything matters. It’s not a one man’s job. It’s a team effort from everybody. And for someone like him, he’s so well read, you can’t fib around him. He knows what he wants, what he wants to do. So that’s the best part. And to work with somebody like that, you need to up your game every single time. Like every movie, the requirement for every movie is different. And to come up with a transformation and to have a different body aesthetics every movie is not easy. You put your body through a lot of stress while doing it and to come back again and again with something different and to present to the world is just amazing. It’s just an amazing effort from him.
(Mohit): Yeah, I think what a lot of people actually miss out on and sometimes say that, oh, it’s just good genetics, or it’s maybe a lot of supplements or steroids or whatever it is. People just forget the part of the hard work where the hard work plays a huge role.
(Swapneel): A lot of people talk about a lot of things. They talk about, he must be having a lot of supplements, he must be having this, he must be having that. But saying that even though you have all the facilities, you should know how to use those facilities and you should put in those hard work to make sure you’re using those facilities to get the kind of result you want. Even though if you’re taking supplements, you still need to put in that minimum number of hours You need to put in that effort. You need to have that sleep. You need to get those 8 hours or 10 hours of sleep to recover from your workouts. You need to eat the right kind of food you need to eat the right kind of food at the right time. That is also important. Plus, do your work. Plus do all your other work. Ads, movies, everything. It’s not easy to manage. It’s not easy to manage.
(Mohit): Yeah. I mean, look at the amount, number of rich people around you who don’t have good bodies, right? That tells you how easy or hard it is, right? exactly. If taking supplements and working on a gym and eating right was simple, if it was so simple to make bodies, everybody would have good bodies. People like me would be out of job by then. I think everybody, because then they wouldn’t have been a problem in the world. But I think the problem really is that it’s such a complex field just eating well itself. Like, as you mentioned, right? Eating at the right time, the right proportions, the right mix, rightly sourced. It’s just such sort of like a rabbit hole of things that actually you can do.
(Swapneel): The more you get into it, the more you learn, the more you develop something. And every time you come across, oh, I didn’t know this. Oh, this is how it is. So you keep on learning new stuff. When you keep on trying to learn, you try and keep getting deeper and deeper into it and you find that, oh, this is also possible. And that opens doors to new possibilities.
(Mohit): Yeah. I can tell you a little bit about like so I spent some time at a martial arts camp looking at a few UFC fighters performing in their 40s. And I was an Indian dude out of building a new company. I was taking a break and I was like, why would people go out in a ring fight in their 40s? Like, isn’t there a risk of injury? And how are they performing at such a level? And I just realized that it’s not just that some people are built differently, just that their work ethic around, it’s their work ethic, to be honest, right? Apart from the systems that they have, their work ethic is just another level. And my work ethic was maybe 1/10th of that at that point in time. And I was like, if I can even get 50% of that, I think I’ll probably get much better gains.
(Swapneel): So what you said is absolutely right, Mohit. You have just hit the nail on the head because when I was playing professionally, I was playing for my club. I was capturing for my club, Cricket Club of India, that’s CCI with the matches, where he current IPL matches are held. I was capturing for them for about good ten years. And in that period and when you play professional cricket, you learn a few things. And what I learned during that phase is if there are two individuals, one is supremely talented, but less hardworking. The other one is little less talented, but hard working and is more committed towards the team effort. You should pick that guy with eyes closed, because the kind of work ethics he’ll put and the commitment he will put towards the team is unreal. That will overcome his shortcomings of skill. And somebody who can put that kind of hard work or work ethics, we talk about that effort. If that person does it day in and day out, I won’t be surprised if he’ll never fail. He’ll keep on getting the success. Success might be a little difficult at times, but he will get the success. Success can elude him.
Question (Mohit): I think if the core of everything is compounding and consistency, then work ethic probably becomes the most important thing to build indicator. But shifting a little bit of gears around, like talking about tools in this space, right? So there is you mentioned nutrition is one of the tools. Of course, physical training is one of the tools as well. In combination, if they work together, it’s amazing, right, how you would have seen this transformation in the industry that from people being naturally talented to people adopting newer systems. And these are systems proven systems that have become like sort of like things that they can learn from and they can do over a period of time. And now with data coming in, evolving those systems. So how much of an important role do you think data plays, given that in the sporting world, of course, there’s so much of sports analytics, but in general, health and fitness. How much of a role do you think data plays?
Answer (Swapneel): I think you have all the tools. You have the science, you have the tools, and you keep on getting data from this. But the most important thing is how you use this data. People love to collect data, but they don’t know what to do with the data. They want their smartwatches, they want their glucose monitors. They want heart ratee. They want to know how many kilometers and what speed they have run, everything. But when they ask them, okay, how are you working on this thing? They don’t know how to use that data. And I think that plays a very vital role. You get the statistics in, you look at it and you see how you can work to make yourself better. If you have a proven data, nobody can contest you on that. If you know that, if you’re running a kilometer at say five minutes, a kilometer. Now, if you want to get better, you need to understand what speed you’re running, what incline you’re running, what cadence you’re running. So all those things starts mattering, and then that’s where you can tweak different aspects of the sport. Like, is my mechanics of running correct? Is my stride length better? If I do this, will I get a little faster? So all those things will come into picture once you know what the data is. Like, the Garmin watches which I’ve been using is the same thing. Like, you have the data, but you need to know how to use the data to get better.
(Mohit): No. Absolutely. And I also feel that there is a certain amount of curiosity barrier here, which is a lot of people who have access to rich data can fall into buckets, right? And the bucket that potentially ends up working well is essentially like, I got this piece of data. It showed me that there are things to improve. Now, I will read more and commit to this and improve. Like, just a few days back, I was having a conversation with somebody, a user, saying that you gave me a bunch of things to improve, but can you improve it for me? And I was telling them that, no, I think health and fitness is a collective responsibility, right? The platform can tell you a few things, and it will, over time, become better at telling you what exactly what you should be doing. But then it’s your own curiosity as well. Like, I don’t want to live a poor life.
(Swapneel): Correct. Like what? Rightly. You said the app will give you the data, but it will also tell you what to do. But unless you do it, and unless you keep on getting deeper and deeper into it, you will not know what works for you. Because everybody is different. Everybody has a system which works for them. Everybody’s body works very differently. So you need to experiment with that and how it will work and suit you to get better, because there’s no one rule which applies to everybody. It’s slightly different, which will make you a little better than the other.
Question (Mohit): Yes, I think that compounds. I think experimentation is the right framework, as you rightly summarized. It’s the right mindset that I’m experimenting, I’m trying out new things, I’m learning new things. I’m evolving myself every day, being consistent with it. On that note, how is the journey with a glucose monitor?
Answer (Swapneel): It’s brilliant. I’m not saying this because I’m on this platform, I’m talking to you Mohit, but it’s been brilliant. So I had a slip disk in 2018, and since the time I stopped playing professionally and had a couple of surgeries on my shoulder, one surgery on my knee, I started putting on weight as a trainer. I was working I was working with clients, busy hectic schedule, and I’m carrying foodstuffs with me. Like, what I was saying carrying supplements, carrying food, eating the right things and training like a dog and still not getting the results, which I expected because of the kind of effort I was putting in. When I started using the CGM monitor, I realized what I’m eating is right, but not at the right time. What I was doing is like, I tried and tested it out. I had the same meal at the same time every single day. But the result was very different on both the days. It’s because the way I ate and in what order I ate made a difference. So that was a learning experience. And I was like, oh, God, what am I doing? I am eating the right stuff, but not in the right order. And that gave me a very high sugar spike. And when that spike happens, your body doesn’t let you use the energy system the way it’s supposed to use. It doesn’t help you burn the fat the way you are supposed to burn it after eating and after working out. And I was like, oh, this is an eye opener for me because somebody from a training background, everything depends on training and who’s been putting in the hours and eating. I love my food. I love my food. I can’t stop eating. So that is also one reason why it’s very difficult to get back in shape Because the kind of food you eat and how much you eat. And when I started using CGM monitor, it gave me a very clear idea that what I’m eating is right, but the way I’m eating is not right. And I tried and tested both the meals, exactly the same meals, and in the order I ate, made the difference. And like, in the last couple of months, since the time I started using CGM monitor, I’ve dropped like about four kilos. And in terms of fat percentage, I dropped about 4%. So that’s a massive drop for me in the last three months for me. So it helped majorly Like I said, the data is there, but how to use the data is the trick.
(Mohit): That’s rightly. Very well said. And given that health is such a rabbit hole of you can say like, you can keep going deeper and deeper and deeper. There’s a lot of study now coming out on longevity, which is around how to enable healthy aging by looking at your mTOR pathway, looking at your different pathways of your body, energy regulation, metabolic health. I think as you saw the three eras of transformation in sports, potentially in the next ten to 15 years, we’ll see sort of like a transformatory phase in fitness and health where I think you can say people who can motivate and enable, people like yourself, who can essentially get people to learn new skills as well as be amazing in terms of their work ethics. Plus, using a tool set like the data that the platforms like ours provides. I Think it could potentially be like a super potent framework.
(Swapneel): I think it’s a game changer. It’s something like a game changer. If you want the X factor, this is what you need to have. Because sometimes people ask when I was using the CGM monitor I still have it on me. People are asking me what is this? Oh its CGM? It’s a continuous glucose monitor. But do you have diabetes? I said no. I don’t have diabetes. Why are you wearing it? I said it has nothing to do with diabetes. I’m wearing it for my health. To monitor what’s my blood sugar at any given point of time, to understand what should I eat, at what time, what is the best time for me to work out, when is my body primed to work out? All those things are very important if you want to get the best out of your body. If I haven’t slept well, my body responds very differently. If I eat something, my body reacts very differently when I eat sugar. My stress levels also make a difference to how my body reacts to different kinds of food stuff. So all those things started giving me a very deeper insight into what I could do with the data and that’s where it changes as I changed. People think the worst part in Indian system is that people don’t want to invest in their health. They think it’s a cost, but they will go to the doctor to pay their fees. But to invest in their own health, they will not do that. They’ll go and spend some 3000, 4,000 Rs in a hotel. But to invest in their health they’ll say no, it’s too expensive. This is the mindset that needs to change. If you invest in your health, there’s nothing better than that and that is where you should put your money into because that is something that will keep on going. It can’t go waste.
Question (Mohit): No, absolutely. And I think we feel that every day is that the culture has to be created at grassroots level. By the way, same problem as sports that if top ten people in the country, if the cricket team essentially goes and goes out winning, that will definitely create the culture. But the best way to create the culture is to have like people playing cricket in every gully and street or any of the sport by the way, right? Unless the people are involved in sports the top team cannot have more talent and then eventually the culture won’t be treated similarly if you want to have a great fitness culture all around. So all of us basically top performers like the other day we were actually speaking to one of the top billionaires in the country and amount of health issues that they are having essentially, right? They have access to almost everything that is possible. But why is health still an issue? It’s such a large complex problem for everybody, rich or poor aside, right? I mean, it’s not about the resources. It’s just about the mindset and your work ethic. So it’s an amazing industry, or it’s an amazing problem to solve overall. It is, absolutely. And one of the things that I was very curious about, and also for myself, was, given that you have seen through so many transformations and also the harder ones, right? I mean, you must like three month long transformation, which almost sounds like impossible to believe, right? Let’s say the top three things that you would tell people who are transforming themselves to watch out for or to think about. Your top three advice for those people.
Answer (Swapneel): Train under supervision. Train under a guy who knows his stuff. Do not use your own head. He is there because he has the knowledge and he has the ability to transform. Secondly, eating is the most unlooked part, I think. It’s the most underrated part. I think bodies are made in the kitchen, and it’s very true. If you are what you eat, that’s the second thing. Third is rest. You need to rest first. Only when you are well rested, when you are well recovered, can you put in that kind of effort. These three things are my magic words for a transformation.
(Mohit): Wow. It’s such a simple and powerful framework. You can’t change much.
(Swapneel): You need to put in the effort. If you use your own head, you could probably do a surgery on your own. But you go to a specialist, you go to an Orthopedic to get your surgeries done. You go to a specialist to get your surgeries done. Then why don’t you hire a specialist to train you and transform you? That’s one. Eating is without saying. Without saying There’s no other secret to it.
(Mohit): So it’s been a pleasure to speak to you and to learn about your experiences. I think we would love to collaborate and work together in terms of building and playing a role in the industry, in this ecosystem, where I think millions and millions of people actually need help to improve their own health and also to transform themselves. So, of course, we’ll stay in touch. And thanks a ton for making it here. It’s been such a pleasure. Throughout the podcast, multiple times, I think. I haven’t had so many goosebumps ever.
(Swapneel): The pleasure is mine, Mohit. I’ve been looking forward to this. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed using the Ultrahuman CGM device. It’s just brilliant. It’s given me a new insight into how things work. And I’ve been using this with Hrithik as well. And he’s very keen on it and he’s very much into it right now because we’re doing an action shoot. He’s just removed it for the purpose because he’s doing action. But as soon as it gets over, we are going to get back onto it again.
(Mohit): Very cool. And there’s more, by the way, so we’ll tell you there are more biomarkers coming in.
(Swapneel): Oh, that’s great. I’m looking forward to it. It’s been a wonderful journey. Using the CGM so far. I’m looking forward to the new biomarkers.
(Mohit): Amazing. Thank you, Swapneel.
(Swapneel): Thanks, Mohit.
Outro (Mohit): Life of an S&C coach isn’t easy, and especially when your clients include some of the world’s biggest celebrities. Hope it gave you enough motivation to go after the transformation you have been sitting on. If you liked this episode, please share with your friends and family and tag us @UltrahumanHQ on Twitter and Instagram and let us know what intrigued you the most. See you soon with the next episode.
